Ask HN: What would you preserve if the internet were to go down tomorrow?

259 points · gooob · 34 days ago

thought experiment: if the internet were to go down tomorrow for an indefinite period, what content would you most want to download and preserve?

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runjake · 34 days ago
I’m already doing this, but:

- All of Wikipedia English

- Download as many LLM models and the latest version of Ollama.app and all its dependencies.

- Make a list of my favorite music artists and torrent every album I can.

- Open my podcast app and download every starred episode (I have a ton of those that I listen to repeatedly).

- Torrent and libgen every tech book I value. Then, grab large collections of fiction EPUBs.

- Download every US Army field manual I can get my hands on, especially the Special Operations Medic manual, which is gold for civilian use in tough times.

- Download every radio frequency list I can for my area of the country.

- Download digital copies of The Encyclopedia of Country Living by Carla Emory, Where There Is No Doctor, and Where There Us No Dentist.

I already have paper versions of almost all of these but it’s handy to have easily-reproducible and far more portable digital copies.

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jpc0 · 34 days ago
Define internet here.

Having recently had a week long internet outage I can say quite confidently, nothing really.

The things that caused me massive anxiety during that outage was things that are real time.

No communication, since all my communication is through VOIP services of some sort, even mobile calls might be down depending on how you define internet.

And no banking at all, my bank doesn't even have physical branches and most banks in my country have gone that way, even going to a physical branch for one of the larger incumbent banks they just put you on a call with their call center, they cannot help you locally. The tellers and just fancy ATMs and they charge you a premium to use them instead of the ATM outside. If you thing that wont be an issue, well the internet is down, that local branch is useless.

There's still many cash based business so that's less of an issue for me but we will definitely have pandemic level panic again. I mean during the pandemic people bought all the toilet paper here, not the food but the toilet paper...

Online media will be the least of your problems and large swaths of that information is available and backed up at libraries around the world. Likewise if only the network is down the servers still exist so the data didn't go away.

Also if Y2K taught us anything is that we will solve the problem relatively quickly and even if what we currently know as the internet fails a different form of the internet will be back up soon enough.

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LeoPanthera · 34 days ago
I have an interest in historical television, and YouTube has become the default location for other collectors to upload rips of VHS tapes and other formats of captured broadcasts.

So a few years ago I started up a server that slowly (so as not to annoy any YouTube rate limits) downloaded copies of every video from channels I enjoy. I also threw in a few "normal" YouTube channels that I just happen to like.

Today it's archived over 7500 videos and it's still rolling along.

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pryelluw · 34 days ago
I went through this already. Lived through a category 5 hurricane that took out the power grid, and antennas (among many other key infrastructure).

I downloaded as much documentation about the technology I relied on as possible. Ma pages, cloning repos, saving websites as HTML, etc. My goal was to have everything I needed in case I had to build my own internet again. Even if it was like cubas version that uses thumb drive based networking.

It worked for the most part. The one downside was having to ration my electricity usage as it was generated by a generator and fuel was not easy to come by.

This taught me that any kind of network requires a robust electrical grid. So, I’d install solar panels with batteries, a backup generator, some wind turbines, and then work on downloading all the documentation needed to make the network work.

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Jupe · 34 days ago
Apologies, but this strikes me as a rather silly question. What I would keep in the event of a prolonged network outage would be of minimal significance.

What I'd really be concerned about would be our modern society. Purchasing food, water, fuel, clothes and other necessities would be near impossible. Supply chains would not just have problems, but literally fall apart. Money would stop moving.

If anything is "too big to fail" it would be the internet.

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