Ask HN: How does one negotiate for a remote job?

24 points · singhrac · 71 days ago

Asking for a friend who is interviewing right now: for life reasons he would really appreciate a fully remote job. Do you think prospective employers/hiring managers have fixed remote policies or is there flexibility if they're willing to give up some compensation? Is there an approach that is better than just asking directly?

Asking about a full range of companies, not just FAANG.


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vineyardlabs · 71 days ago
Personally, I would not try to negotiate an onsite role into a remote one, not because I don't think it will work (though it probably won't), but because you don't really want to be the one remote exception in a primarily onsite team.

The rest of the team will end up having to go out of their way to accommodate you, your accomplishments won't be as visible, and you'll be passed over for performance-based compensation and/or promotion.

Though I guess that's fine if it's a job you plan to take for a year or whatever and move on.

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muzani · 71 days ago
Convince them that it's more productive. Usually the problem is that it's unproductive for the manager, not the IC.

Keep in mind that it's usually a culture thing. Programmers working from home makes sense, sometimes the janitors, security, chefs, CS want to work from home too, which makes less sense. Whenever I've done crunch time on weekends, the managers or more senior ones are always there too, even when they're doing nothing, sometimes all the way up to the CEO. A lot of office cultures seem to encourage this form of suffering together. This is also more likely where the staff is mostly offline e.g. Tesla or Amazon.

So I see absolutely no reason to give up compensation for this - this might actually hurt your argument. One option is taking on a part time contract instead so they're not under the same benefits as the ones who are working from office.

GianFabien · 71 days ago
As a potential employee your friend needs to first consider what the potential employer wants.

Your friend needs to demonstrate that they are an exceptional hire, only then does negotiations about compensation and working arrangements come into play.

marssaxman · 71 days ago
Wouldn't it make more sense to look for remote jobs already being offered and apply to them instead?
hiatus · 71 days ago
Go through the interview, get an offer, and then negotiate for remote. If you made it that far you have more bargaining power than trying for remote at the phone screen stage.

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