Ask HN: How do you deal with overly negative comments

17 points · Uptrenda · 3 days ago

It seems like the longer I use the Internet the more I'm aware of just how many people use it exclusively to act like ass holes without recourse.

Particularly insidious are people who seem to poison any positive outcomes by spreading falsehoods and doubt. Sometimes even simply by having a shitty attitude.

My question to HN is: how do you deal with people who seem to go out their way to spread negative comments.


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wruza · 12 hours ago
As who? As a user you simply ignore it. No reply (and no vote) also happens to be their sore spot sometimes, but if that’s not your goal, just ignore them in a friendly manner.

As a mod you should probably ask mods, not users. An obvious glimpse of it that I can think of: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru... Many insights there alone, what do, what not do.

I guess you’re asking about the whole internet, not only small communities. Well, I’d advise to stop caring that much about what others say or fall for. It’s not under your control and should not spend too much of your attention on it. Get out of the pot and let them all boil, both trolls/etc and naive prey. Not your direct problem.

axiologist · 3 days ago
Two things come to mind:

1. Negative or even toxic reactions typically tell much more about the ones stating them, but this is easily overlooked in the midst of a heated communication exchange. It shouldn't be forgotten that such people usually do not know nearly enough about what they are reacting to and their reflex is normally just a reaction to their own prejudice or ignorance without any understanding.

2. The best critiques to be used for sharpening one's own ideas are the negative ones, not the comfy positive ones. Only the negative comments make you think more in depth about your own ideas, while the positive ones only strengthen your own cognitive biases and thus undermine the actual validity of your ideas.

It is very hard to remember these two precepts in the heat of a discussion. But if you learn to slow down and abstain from the illusion of "winning" an argument, then such negativities can be turned into a powerful ally against the intentions of those emitting them.

And remember, experienced competitors typically negate one's creativity to secretely take advantage of thus accidently newfound ideas of others while their adversary is still puzzled by this unexpected negativity.

It's all a (serious) game if you are able to put it into proper perspective.

johng · 3 days ago
Nearly every great accomplishment I've ever had in my life was destroyed before it even began. I would share my idea with someone, many someones and 90% of the reaction would always be negative. "That won't work", "It's a dumb idea, here's why", etc... But the 10% that had positive things to say and youthful stupidity and stubbornness often made me pursue them anyway. Often enough, if I really put in 100% effort it ended up working out. Not every time.... but looking back, it was often enough that I could string together a bit of confidence and start ignoring the naysayers.

I don't know if I would have had the confidence to continue if in the beginning I hadn't had some bit of success often enough to keep my hopes alive. I think that a lot of that has to do with the way I was raised. Parents that encouraged you to think and do different things, that gave you positive feedback and encouragement. Schools that did the same. Sports. Different classes. Interaction with different children at different schools. Which as a kid were scary and painful but also they prepared you for unexpected things.

The new world, social media, etc... really doesn't promote that stuff well. We have information at our fingertips but we don't put nearly enough effort into the positive stuff. It seems to be human nature at this point to default to the negative. I fear it will only get worse.

Thick skin, willingness to put yourself out there and fail over and over are necessary. My best advice is to just tell yourself over and over to never stop trying. You haven't failed until you give up... nothing wrong with moving onto another project. But, be like a shark... once you stop swimming, you die.

krapp · 3 days ago
Free speech doesn't obligate you to give every troll, bigot and moron your time and attention. Block them when and where you can. Where you can't, try to ignore them and not to engage. Even if it means letting them be wrong on the internet, or letting them "win."

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breckenedge · 3 days ago
Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.

- George Bernard Shaw

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