Ask HN: Promoted, but Career Path Derailed
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golly_ned
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There was a re-org last quarter. My team was working on a specific domain managing a stack. There was another close-by team working in that same domain managing a different stack. They hadn't been one team from the get-go due to political interpersonal reasons. My director got fired for bad performance, and the other team's product launch failed (under a different director, both under the same senior director).
The other team took over my team's stack and manages both stacks now. The other team had a senior staff engineer, and I (then a staff engineer) was displaced. I was moved to a different domain and promoted to senior staff engineer, onto a team that was historically seen as badly underperforming, and was a huge contributing factor in my director getting fired. I have experience in both domains, but my knowledge, experience, and interest prefer my old domain, in the team I was displaced out of. At first, the senior director didn't outright tell me I couldn't stay in the old domain, but made it very clear it was in my best interest to move to the new domain, where there wasn't a staff+ engineer. I've been reassured my performance is great and I feel my work on the last team was appreciated across the org and I established a good reputation, but it's upsetting that I'm not able to continue to work on my specialty.
I've been feeling lots of things. One is that I really don't like being in charge of my own destiny with this kind of thing. I've left a company due to a bad reorg before largely because I wasn't in control. I don't want my career and life to evolve by happenstance. Another is sadness at the loss of prominence in the company, since I have to re-orient myself on this new team, where two experts are already prominent as leaders. Another is just the fact that I don't enjoy this domain as much and don't find it as interesting, especially as the work in my previous team is getting into my specialization just this year after I've left. Another is that I'm bothered by the lack of continuity in the large projects I had worked on. It pains me to leave so much in a half-finished state.
A new director is starting in two weeks. I don't know how much or whether to surface these issues to him. I'm hoping I could start to report directly to him to be able to work on cross-org initiatives, including things related to my other domain, which has certain points of intersection between the domains.
I'm not willing to leave the company because its stock 6x'ed last year. I'm looking for other options and advice on either what actions to take to change the situation in ways that'll make me happier and more satisfied at work, or thoughts that'll help address the feelings about this.
Thank you.
canterburry ·13 days ago
You want to be one of those "go to" people! They are put on the most challenging assignments, the most exciting opportunities, more often promoted, protected from above, last to let go and frequently asked to follow that leader to new assignments at new companies usually with higher titles and better comp.
It seems to me you have been spotted by your Sr. Director and given an opportunity to prove yourself as you did in your prior team. It's a logical move to take a high performer from one team, and try to prop up an underperforming team. It's about what's good for the company.
If this fails, you won't necessarily be blamed, but you'll have lost an opportunity to really stand out amongst any other engineer at your level and earn the status of your Sr. Director's "go to" person.
Your value is in being a versatile, competent "can do anything, anywhere and happy to do it" type of resource who can be thrown into the biggest messes and come out looking good.
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smitelli ·13 days ago
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> I'm not willing to leave the company because its stock 6x'ed last year.
Those two things, right there, are at complete odds with each other. You're artificially limiting your options because of some magic numbers you can't control look good right now. (Magic numbers which, by the way, have vesting periods and other fixed-time rules precisely to trap people into cycles where they feel they can't leave.)
It's a perfectly valid thing to stay for financial reasons, but that must come with acceptance that sometimes you'll have to roll over and take whatever they decide to dish out. It's also perfectly valid to accept that the ground shifted under your feet and the only reasonable thing is to move to greener pastures. But you can't do both.
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GianFabien ·17 days ago
You got a promotion into an area where you have a chance to prove your chops by improving on things. Get this right and you'll be in line for more promotions.
Being "the expert" in a specialized domain is often a career limiting thing. Broadening your areas of success is generally better for your long term career.
Probably best to wait until the new director settles in before pitching your proposals. In the meantime, take a look at how you can further improve how the management views your contributions and the value you produce.
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slippy ·13 days ago
Do you think this was good advice? You took their advice, even if it seemed a bitter pill at the time. They were most certainly part of the process for your promotion.
It feels like this senior director is in your corner. I'd schedule a 1:1 with a simple agenda of "looking for advice".
Definitely start with a compliment. "I remember that you advised me to move to X, Y time ago, and you were right that it was great for my career and promotion."
Be clear and specific about your desires - "I miss working on X technology. I was wondering if you have any visibility into any 2025 Q2, Q3, H2 projects or opportunities related to X technology that I might be able to [contribute to or transition to]." Sometimes you can be 50/50 to try something out or dip your toe in the water if you are attached to the success of something else. It's important that you be clear and specific. Maybe you could do this via email - it depends on if you are introverted or extroverted.
I once had an EM go back to Principal IC in an area that he loved. He's still working on it.
Good luck!
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duke_sam ·13 days ago
Taking a flailing org and being visibly a part of turning them around will open a lot of doors in your current company. Notably those open doors won’t really translate if you switch jobs. If you switch jobs you’ll have to rebuild the trust that senior middle-management have in you.
At the end of the day if you want to find a small niche and stay in it then senior staff+ is likely not for you unless your technical area is in demand and very complex.
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