AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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455 points · geox · 13 days ago


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DoingIsLearning · 13 days ago
I am not expert but there seems to be an overlap in the article between 'AI' and well ... just software, or signal processing:

- AI that collects “real time” biometric data in public places for the purposes of law enforcement.

- AI that creates — or expands — facial recognition databases by scraping images online or from security cameras.

- AI that uses biometrics to infer a person’s characteristics

- AI that collects “real time” biometric data in public places for the purposes of law enforcement.

All of the above can be achieved with just software, statistics, old ML techniques, i.e. 'non hype' AI kind of software.

I am not familiar with the detail of the EU AI pact but it seems like the article is simplifying important details.

I assume the ban is on the purpose/usage rather than whatever technology is used under the hood, right?

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frereubu · 12 days ago
I always sigh when I see these threads on HN because many of the comments (although not all, thankfully) devolve into US / EU name-calling and wild overgeneralisations.

I would really love to see a Q&A thread like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42770125 from someone who's actually read the documents, practices law in the area, and also understands the difference between US and EU law.

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theptip · 13 days ago
Seems like a mostly reasonable list of things to not let AI do without better safety evals.

> AI that tries to infer people’s emotions at work or school

I wonder how broadly this will be construed. For example if an agent uses CoT and they needs emotional state as part of that, can it be used in a work or school setting at all?

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hcfman · 13 days ago
Laws that are open to interpretation with drastic consequences if it's interpreted against your favour pose unacceptable risk to business investors and stifle innovation.

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hcfman · 13 days ago
I would like to see a new law that puts any member of government found obstructing justice is put in jail.

Except that the person responsible for travesty of justice framing 9 innocent people in this Dutch series is currently the president of the court of Maastricht.

https://npo.nl/start/serie/de-villamoord

Remember. The courts have the say as to who wins and looses in these new vague laws. The ones running the courts have to not be corrupt. But the case above shows that this situation is in fact not the case.

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