Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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631 points · healsdata · 12 days ago


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rtpg · 12 days ago
I appreciate Ryan taking this up, and the updates are interesting.

Obviously I'm not paying for the lawyers but it feels like "oh Oracle is trying to add months of delays" feels pretty normal. Only months! If the process just trudges along for a couple of years before reaching a "good" conclusion, still worth doing!

And very happy that this is an actual legal proceeding and "try to sign a petition asking Oracle nicely" is no longer what is being looked at. It's Oracle!

Imagine how far along ago we would be[0] if 2 years ago the lawyers started getting involved. Sometimes you just gotta do the thing that takes forever. Or at least try in parallel?

[0]: Again, I'm not paying for the lawyers or doing anything useful at all!

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LorenDB · 12 days ago
The best part of this article for me was seeing that Oracle's screenshots were taken in IE.

Yes, those are old by now, but it's still a blast from the past.

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ndneighbor · 12 days ago
Knowing Oracle, they will take it to court if they can. To paraphrase Cantrill, it's a company that behaves very much like a lawnmower.

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jongjong · 12 days ago
The legal system is fundamentally broken, globally.

Last time I tried to start a legal action to claim damages against a big company for a very clear-cut case full of obvious fraud and deception (with plenty of evidence and many witnesses). I couldn't find a single lawyer willing to take my case for a share of the proceeds. The defendant was sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars in questionably-obtained cash and assets. To me, this is proof that the legal system is broken. It means the lawyers knew that the odds of winning were extremely low, regardless of the evidence.

I told them about the large amounts of money involved and told them my situation; many of them didn't even ask about what evidence I had. That's how unlikely it is to win a legal case for a non-corporate entity; lawyers won't even lift a finger about a case involving millions and literal fraud if the plaintiff doesn't have the right status, exposure or business connections.

If this is how they deal with the creator of Node.js with the support of Brendan Eich (who literally invented JavaScript), then imagine how they deal with the rest of us who aren't high-exposure individuals.

What's the point of even having a legal system if it only works for certain people?

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kingforaday · 12 days ago
Anyone else read the article and say Oracle JET? What is that?

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